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O2VW1.8T
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:24 pm |
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| I sprinkle rubber on my Cherios |
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:52 pm Posts: 206 Location: NC
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Anyone know how low the 7" spring will be, I want the car to be pretty low, Cause QA1 springs only have 7" and the Eibach's have a bunch of 6" springs
_________________ 02 VW 1.8T 7.3@102mph on pump, street tires in a converted Gti to haldex 2004 audi A4 1.8T converted to quattro- soon 2.7T swap 2011 JSW TDi 6speed
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O2VW1.8T
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:55 pm |
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| I sprinkle rubber on my Cherios |
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:52 pm Posts: 206 Location: NC
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Mcstiff wrote: Depends on your adjustment and spring rate ;D 450 front and 650 in the rear, It will have a V8 in the front but for now the regular 10v untill i get the suspension done.
_________________ 02 VW 1.8T 7.3@102mph on pump, street tires in a converted Gti to haldex 2004 audi A4 1.8T converted to quattro- soon 2.7T swap 2011 JSW TDi 6speed
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audi4kq
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:39 pm |
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| kickin' tires'n lightin fires |
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:31 pm Posts: 574 Location: MT
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When welding the rings that the springs sit on to the shock body, is there any risk of burning through to where the gas is? Is this a potential hazard or is there a couple layers of metal there.
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:23 pm |
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| mach 2 with my hair on fire |
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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speeding-g60
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:04 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:43 pm Posts: 6571 Location: Oregon somewhere
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you do not burn thru and make a mess of things. controlled welding..... piece of cake.
and yes you pull the strut insert out first.
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audi4kq
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:00 pm |
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| kickin' tires'n lightin fires |
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:31 pm Posts: 574 Location: MT
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Gotcha. I've never had one apart so I wasn't sure if you were welding directly to the gas strut or not. Thanks for the insight. 
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speeding-g60
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:03 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:43 pm Posts: 6571 Location: Oregon somewhere
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look at all the pictures i posted on the first page, you will see them all disassembled.
_________________ 759 AWHP, 554 wtq @ 38 psi in a 20v 2.0L 4 cyl Coupe Quattro. on E-98 and 67mm billet turbo
9.342 @ 153.71 1.400 60' and pulls 1.6g on acceleration! 60-130 in 4.9 seconds
QUICKEST 4cyl Audi Quattro drag car in the WORLD!! And now QUICKEST AUDI IN N AMERICA AS WELL!!!!
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audi4kq
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:01 pm |
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| kickin' tires'n lightin fires |
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:31 pm Posts: 574 Location: MT
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Wow, there it is. Somehow I missed that one
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zarati
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:18 am |
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| mach 2 with my hair on fire |
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:04 am Posts: 2438
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I haven't run this yet but I'm going 300f/325r 8" Spring all around. Should be firm but not too stiff I"m hoping. I ran 10" Springs in 325f/275r on mly 4000q and it was totally livable as a daily driver. I want a little more tail happiness though hence the inversion this time around. And with 10" Springs I couldn't lower the car really, but even at stock ride height it handled great and I was keeping up with B5 S4's at the track. (10vt engine in the 4k)
_________________ Todd 91' CQ Daily Driver (FOR SALE) 2000' A4 Avant ATQ 83' ur-quattro. "Jadis" Cage, Coilovers, No Engine Yet. "Coupes are better than Sedans. Less Door Handles to replace!!!"
PARTING: 90 90q20v 86 4000quattro
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:32 am |
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| mach 2 with my hair on fire |
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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zarati
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:47 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:04 am Posts: 2438
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Not if built right.
I never had an issue with 10" Springs because it at the ride Height I had them set at the spring never came unseated. I had them pre-compressed about 1-2 turns on the perch.
With 8" Springs just run a spacer/joiner and helper spring. Thats what KW, H&R and any other properly designed "system" does. I like A_CQ's thought to ziptie the spring to top perch. I imagine it would still make a little noise but would be better. Some companies also use urethane isolators on the perches to quiet them down a bit.
_________________ Todd 91' CQ Daily Driver (FOR SALE) 2000' A4 Avant ATQ 83' ur-quattro. "Jadis" Cage, Coilovers, No Engine Yet. "Coupes are better than Sedans. Less Door Handles to replace!!!"
PARTING: 90 90q20v 86 4000quattro
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fafwa45
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:28 am |
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Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 627 Location: Vancouver,Wa
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Wont the stock shocks wear out faster though because theyre designed for a certain hight and now theyre compressed more? I want to make my own coilovers aswell just this worries me
_________________ 1990 CQ 190k silver/black
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:50 am |
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| mach 2 with my hair on fire |
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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I think the best thing to do is to use sport shocks that are made for shorter travel.
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zarati
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:20 am |
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If your running an adjustable setup you will be Lower & Stiffer. Both of these require new shocks. If you were just going stiffer, you'd run something like a Bilstein HD which are designed for cars that aren't lowered. Bilstein Sports/Sprints are for lowered cars and their travel is different.
That said, valving is valving to a certain extent. I've heard differing schools of thought. Some say you have to be in the sweet spot of the shock. Others say it doesn't matter, as long as your somewhere near the middle. One of the main reasons Bilstein Sports are much shorter in extended length is to keep drop in OE Replacement springs from un-seating at full droop.
_________________ Todd 91' CQ Daily Driver (FOR SALE) 2000' A4 Avant ATQ 83' ur-quattro. "Jadis" Cage, Coilovers, No Engine Yet. "Coupes are better than Sedans. Less Door Handles to replace!!!"
PARTING: 90 90q20v 86 4000quattro
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:14 pm |
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Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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I also think bottoming out is a problem as my shocks are stock and I bottom out. Probably not too long before they blow.
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chadlundy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:20 am |
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what would be the lowest you could go using stock shocks? without hurting other suspension parts? i drive an 88 audi 90q and would like to lower it using this set up, but want to be able to adjust my camber and alignment to specs. is this possible??
thanks!
_________________ -chad lundy 88 Audi 90Q 10v 90 Audi 90Q 20v 90 Audi V8Q 32v 91 Audi 200 20v
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USM Ty Ty
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:46 am |
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You've got a 22 yea old car, that you want to lower and put on stiffer springs using the stock struts. Do you know if they've ever been replaced before?
That thing is going to ride like hell...
_________________ '89 90q Rallycross car '86 CGT G2 Rally car '00 Jeep XJ SWEEP rig '86 Honda Magna 2 wheeled kergigger
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chadlundy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 am |
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alright, i will definitely look into some sport shocks! what spring length and rate should i use for a little tire tuck and fast cornering/handling??
_________________ -chad lundy 88 Audi 90Q 10v 90 Audi 90Q 20v 90 Audi V8Q 32v 91 Audi 200 20v
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:43 am |
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Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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My cq rides pretty good on lowering springs and I even had to put in a cheap ass sensa track on one front corner. It definetely bottoms out though on big freeway dips and it's only a matter of time before they will be ruined. At that point I will buy some shorter travel sport shocks starting with the front.
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chadlundy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:46 am |
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what size springs?? what rate? how much is it lowered?
_________________ -chad lundy 88 Audi 90Q 10v 90 Audi 90Q 20v 90 Audi V8Q 32v 91 Audi 200 20v
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reckless1
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:59 am |
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Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:11 am Posts: 2238 Location: Orange County CA
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I'm talking about aftermarket springs, not coilovers . But the point is I think I'm still about as low as you would want to go in the front because my a arms are level with the ground and My stock shocks just aren't doing it but it is driveable.
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